The Hive Five Podcast

5 Key Takeaways from Jordan & Devon Mobley

1. Don’t sell yourself short.

2. Figuring it out is more important than having it all figured out.

3. There’s plenty of room for everyone to win.

4. Have a plan and a vision, but you have to take the action.

5. Team work makes the dream work.


In this energy-filled episode of the Hive Five Podcast, we are talking with Devon & Jordan Mobley. Devon and Jordan are married, but also the cofounders of Rise Coworking in Moore, Oklahoma. While they aren’t able to both work full-time at Rise, they talk about how they are building it while working other projects. Devon works in IT and as a developer, while Jordan focuses mainly on Rise, but also does some photography.

Jordan and Devon met in Yukon, OK during high school. After graduating, Jordan bounced around different universities and trying to figure out a major, before ending up not graduating from college. Also during this time, Jordan and Devon got married, and were both in formative years for their careers. Both were attracted to an entrepreneurial environment and the level of flexibility that came along with it. Devon was also attracted to the opportunity for the creation of wealth to support a family down the road.

They were both passionate about embarking on the entrepreneurial journey and were ready to take the step towards making it happen. Prior to this, Devon had always had little ideas that he worked on, on the side. In the case of Rise, they had an idea they were passionate about, and were ready to make it happen. We talk to them about taking this leap, what the scariest thing was, and how they’ve made it happen with help from people along the way.


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A lot of people sell themselves short and kind of defeat themselves before they get there and it’s you’re more valuable to others whenever you have this attitude of figuring out because to be frank like no one actually has it figured out. That doesn’t exist.
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Hey guys, thanks for listening today. This is Keagan with BriteBee and this is Katherine with BriteBee. Thanks for joining us on the Hive Five podcast. Hey, so we’re so excited to have Devon and Jordan Mobley on today with us. They are husband and wife, cofounders of Rise Coworking, a co-working space in Oklahoma City. Thanks for being on today guys.
Hey, thank you so much for having us.
Yeah. So, you gotta tell us a little bit about you guys and your backgrounds and how Rise Coworking came to be and what your plans are moving forward. Yeah, I know that’s a lot in one in one sentence, but here we go.
Yeah. So I’m, I’m Jordan. I grew up in Yukon, Oklahoma and um, have kind of a big family. There’s four of us girls that grew up in Yukon and um, I don’t know, growing up a little bit, uh, that kind of relates into starting our own business. Both of my parents own their own businesses. My Dad was a lawyer practicing for his own firm and my mom is a hairdresser, so she always kind of did her own thing and um, I don’t notice growing up always around that I saw like the flexibility it brought to them and how passionate they were about what they were doing. And um, so that kind of led us into rise, but before we get there, yeah, grew up in Yukon and then I bounced around a different universities and couldn’t really decide what I wanted to major in. So kind of a side note, I didn’t graduate college so you can do anything you wouldn’t be that didn’t graduate from school but go to school. So that’s just a little bit about me, I guess a couple of things. Deb, do you want.
I’m Devin. I met Jordan in Yukon, um, I transferred, they’re going into high school and so, um, and when we got married we were just kind of, I think we’re in formative years of our careers and one of the things that kinda kept coming up was this idea of being able to create something, be able to do something that was both a flexible and could possibly lead to, you know, like creation of wealth for our family in the future. And that really appeals to us. And so yeah, I think that was kind of what led us down. I’m, I’m actually a developer so I’ve been, I work in it my entire career and so, um, I still work and so I’m, Jordan is definitely the main runner of the show down at rise.
Okay. So let’s, let’s just go back for your second cut. One of the things you said just then was talking about how you guys thought the creation of wealth a later down the road for your family was definitely a good idea and something that was attractive to you. But let me ask you this. Everyone talks about that, right? Everyone thinks about that, but there’s only a few who actually do it and I think one reason because people sell it as if it’s going to happen right now. Right. And so tell us how hard this has been. How hard has this been to, to start this new business and other things that you guys have done? What are your thoughts?
Yeah, so I mean starting it, I think a lot of people are like, wow, like that’s such a risk. Like, you know, they don’t understand why we would do it, but we’re passionate about it and it was just like, okay, if we’re passionate about this, why can’t we try to make it happen? And I think sometimes we’re afraid to take the step to figure out what that would look like and actually take the actions to make it happen instead of just having an idea. So, I don’t know, I think for us it was just like, okay, we’re just kind of black and white people and it was like if we want to do this then we’re going to take the steps and figure it out. And so thankfully we had people along the way and we tried to be this for other people, just people along the way that we can ask questions to and take advice from. So having people around us really kind of helped also to like push us over the edge and actually doing something. Um, but yeah, I know it’s not easy for people to, to like make up their mind to do it. But for us it was just like never really like a thought. We knew we had the idea, we’re passionate about it, so we were like, okay, we’re going to make it happen.
Yeah. And to add onto that, I would say for me, I like, I’ve always been kind of like a, like I’ve always had like ideas in my head that I always work on the side. So like when I’m daydreaming or something, I’ll be like, okay, I’ll pick up this little thing and you know, thinking about what that would look like. Um, usually it’s like business ideas or um, app ideas or something like that. Um, but anyways, I think Jordan is an extremely, uh, I don’t know, aggressive go get her. Like for her, it’s, you know, fear is not something to that she doesn’t let make decisions for her and that’s something I’ve really learned from her. And so I think for us it was kind of like kind kinda like what Jordan was saying that most of the people let fear make a lot of their decisions and that’s just not something that we have decided to do. A people look at what we do as if it’s like some huge risks in reality, what we’ve done so far is not at all that risky in the grand scheme of things and we can say that kind of being on the other side of it, but you know, everyone’s on the, on the front end of it. And so even for us we were just like, yeah, we’re scared, but you know, we just want to do it anyways.
Yeah, I think the scariest thing that people think about is money and for us that’s definitely been the scariest part and the hardest part to trust. But in the end, it’s like, we’re still going to live like we know we can eat. It’s going to be okay. Like even if this doesn’t work out, like it will be okay. Like doesn’t end our lives. It’s just money in the end, the end of the day. So yeah, that was it for us. Well I have and I want to know where the name came from. Obviously, I want to know why co-working, like why I’ve ever thing you could’ve done. Why did you decide on a co-working space?
real quick? Um, so we, we really like when we’re kind of envisioning this part of the process had been that we were spending a lot of time and some of the big cities in Texas and we kind of got the Jordan kind of got the vision for the space itself. She was like, you know, we need places in Oklahoma City. That’s the aesthetic is cool, the community is great, the culture is great, that kind of thing. Um, and so when we’re thinking about the type of space that we wanted to open, we were thinking of a place where people could kind of like, you know, come and get their best work done if they could come and, you know, achieve more than they otherwise could. Um, and so I think it just kind of like played into this idea of like kind of grinding it out and kind of rising to the occasion. So I think that’s definitely where the name came from. And then
yeah. And also we also talked about the name coming from, like what words reminded us of people in Oklahoma and that also aligned with that. So, we really feel like, especially being in Moore, Oklahoma with all the tragedy that’s happened, there was a tornado and stuff like that and we felt like it was sort of an area that was getting passed by as far as co-working, but there were a lot of entrepreneurs there and people that are in like even the Norman area. So just, yeah, rising to the occasion, like rising above, like teamwork rising together, rise together as kind of our like token line that we like to use. Um, but also just rising above adversity and stuff like that. Um, and then Catherine, the other thing I’ll say about why co-working, that’s a really good question. That’s a really good point. Sometimes we look at each other and we’re like, why did we pick something that was super challenging to do in Oklahoma when all, when there’s other people making these products that like sell off the shelves
mean we’re in a somewhat of a suburban context. So that’s another reason why it’s challenging.
Yeah. So, we kind of picked a really challenging business to start, but I would say it really comes out of like who Devon and I are as people and the sense of like what co-working does is it provides community and it provides space to sort of get outside of yourself and think about like what other people are going through and to help one another get to like the next level in their job or to even overcome something like depression. We had one of our members the other day tell me that like being in our space has helped him get out of a funk of depression and like to me those are the things that co-working is about. It’s not about necessarily like what you do or your career but it’s really about the community that you have around you. And that’s just something that Devin and I like live out of already. And so, co-working for us was just kind of like a way of life. But I was working from home and so we decided to start something like this.
That’s amazing. And so you work there on a daily basis, is that right?
Well, I do a Jordan, I do as a photographer, Devin,
I, I still work. I have a job. I go and write code during the day and I love it. And we made that decision early on that I wouldn’t quit my job because I do love it and it’s, it’s opened up a lot of doors. It’s also interesting to note that co-working brings together an interesting mix of people both from the creative side and then also from like the entrepreneurial side and also from the technical side. So, um, you know, Jordan’s creative and she’s really awesome entrepreneur in like in terms of like a director of things and coordinator of things. And I kind of feel like I’m better at more like the business strategy side of things, resources. And then of course technical side of things. I’m really passionate about coding, that kind of thing. So, but yeah, no, I don’t get to make it down there
at this point in our life because honestly, like a theme not profitable. So it’s our baby and we’re trying to, um, you know, scale in progress as a company, but I do photography full time. I’m a wedding photographer and um, so I kind of like bring that creative energy and then Devon loves the team dynamic of his work where he has people around him that are also developers and so it would be cool if he could work remote remotely out of rise, but it’s not really what he wants to do. And so we just kind of support each other in those things. Yeah. That’s awesome.
Y’All have faced some challenges and you had already said, you know, being in kind of a suburb area that was a challenge, but I’m really curious what other challenges that you have faced in a building, a co-working space.
What you start out to do is not what you end up doing and that’s just the name of the game. That’s not something that is unique to us. That’s just the name of the game. So, but so, so the question is when, you know, if you’re going to pivot or you know, but how. And for us it hasn’t been like a major pivot, like our products is still the same, but just we had to learn in the first three months of opening, um, that, you know, kind of learn our market quickly and how to adapt to that. And one of the things that we kind of figured out on that was just, you know, the type of business that we have is really a hospitality business and we wanted to get people in the door and make them feel comfortable. And uh, one of the things that led us to do that was just kind of making some changes to the space itself, making some changes to how we introduce people to the space, get them in the door. And then also just like really turning up the notch on how on that, like hospitality, like, you know, when you’re at someone’s house and they’re just waiting on your hand and foot. It’s like really just honing in on that because people really appreciate that. So
yeah, we had to adjust our pricing structure because we had prices that like you would maybe see in a downtown area. And we quickly realized that we’re in the suburbs and that’s not gonna work here, so we had to quickly change that and then that sort of changed our business plan to a degree also. And then yeah, I would say the biggest hurdle for us has been education and just educating people on what we do and part of that goes into marketing and part of that’s just, you know, maybe the signage we have around our space or outside of our space, but we put the word co-working in our name on purpose just because a lot of people don’t know what that is around the South Oakland City area or even just in Oklahoma in general. It’s still pretty new. So, um, yeah, some of those steps that we have to take to just inform people on what we are about and why we’re like, why it’s important to be a part of our space.
Right. Yeah. That’s awesome. We’ve had to pivot recently as well, which has made, has made a big change for us. So we know exactly what you guys are talking about. We won’t go into that, uh, that long story though, that will take us days. So, but with that being said, we want to make sure that we get into these five key takeaways because this is what our listeners really want to hear about. So our first key takeaway that you, you guys said it was really important was don’t sell yourself short. Tell us a little about this takeaway or are you applying it to a specific instance like boss, client, spouse, or just in general?
Yeah. I think what came to mind whenever, I can’t remember which one,
but I know it was coming to mind was this idea that most people I think, and I think some of our other takeaways kind of get into this. So I think there’s some overlap, but what people go into something and they think and I have to have it figured out and you know, I have to be an expert and you know, I have to do a bunch of research up front and all this different thing, all this different stuff. I just think that, you know, for the entrepreneur in today’s world, you know, you really just need to jump in and do what you’re good at and be confident. Yes. I mean everyone else is figuring it out too. So what I mean by don’t sell yourself short is you can figure it out. Um, I was working on a problem just the other day that I was like, this, this isn’t gonna work and I eventually just chipped away at it and got it done. And it was a very small example of that same attitude that like, you know, you can figure it out, you can learn, you know, some really challenging subject. You can get past this major challenge in your business. You can do any of those things and I just think that people end up selling yourself short.
So kind of like don’t underestimate yourself. Catherine, is this speaking to you right now?
Yeah. And Kagan, thank you for, for coming out. We actually just had this conversation this morning where I, uh, I had a momentary lapse in my abilities to do my job. And [inaudible] was like yourself, don’t sell yourself short. So you’re editing.
You guys both have very similar Oklahoma accidents and it makes me really happy.
Oh, that’s funny. Well I, for the record, anybody who’s listening and not in Oklahoma and even though I lived here for five months, but.
Well yeah.
Hey there you go. Texas representative. But I’ve lived in Oklahoma way too long when Jordan got out numbered really quickly. So. So, before we move on to Takeaway Two, I just want to point out one more question that we had bree, you guys about selling yourself short and where does selling yourself short and get you and how can you overcome that without being prideful? Almost?
I think that is a good question. Catherine. Let me think. Okay. So I just think that I can kind of speak into this because I feel like confidence is something that I lacked and just coming from a place of like, I’ve always felt like I was like, even though I’m 27 now, which is not old, but I’ve always felt like I was not as capable as everybody else. Like I’m too young. I still have, even now I still have this attitude of like, am I even a grown woman yet? Like I don’t know, like this, this like lack of confidence. So I think just selling yourself short is just you have to at least like, you have to believe in yourself and you have to think that, okay, like God gave me a brain, like I’m a smart person, like I can use this and I can learn like just be super teachable and so just don’t sell yourself short and like just always been willing to like learn and receive from other people that have gone before you.
And then I just think having just people around you, like we’re always looking for mentors and like we’re always looking for people that have done cooler things and, and had been more successful than us because we’re not. I mean all we’ve done is start something and will never. You’re never, you’re never going to get to the point that you want to be at. But um, yeah, I just think it doesn’t get you very far if you continue to sell yourself short or just underestimate yourself. And I think it’s important to just have people around you and always be teachable and there’s, I don’t know, never don’t ever get cocky or like too big for yourself because I don’t, that will not get you anywhere. I like that. I’ll just be a dead end.
You know, the thing where I see this really play out in when it comes to learning a new subject. So, I’m a developer, I’m self-taught, I don’t have a computer science degree, I have a philosophy degree just because I’m nerdy and I went around the block in college, that kind of thing. I just, I went into, I literally had this conversation with my boss the other day when he first hired me. He remembers that I told him that I felt like learning to code with something that’s unattainable that like the best of the best did like the navy seals of it. They’re the ones who did tow and then you know, fast forward four years and you know, I’m a pretty distinguished engineering again, like saying that it’s like yeah, that kind of feels prideful to say. But, but the thing is, is like I, I just put in the work to figure it out and, and you, you see this a lot even with like kids and how teachers are or even how parents are talking to their kids and that kind of thing.
So whenever someone says, you know, I’m just not a math person or I’m just not a science person, you know, I said that about business once upon a time and you know, Lo and behold, we opened a business and it turns out I’m actually kinda decent at figuring out business strategy. So I mean, I do think that there is a situation in which you can get to a fault, but my thought is that there are people out there who operate that way, but most of us are operating in a sense of I can’t figure this out. I can’t do this. And kind of from the other end of it.
Yeah. And we write, we write ourselves off before we ever give ourselves a chance to shine because maybe it’s something we don’t have experience in. And it’s just a lack of confidence. So I know Kagan, I’m talking to myself
today and she said something, we have to, we can take this out if I, if I need to, but she said something like, you know, I don’t know if I’m the right person for this. And I said like, someone else could probably do it better. And I said, you’re absolutely right. Someone else probably could do it better, but that’s, but they’re not here, you’re here and, and it’s the only reason why you wouldn’t be able to do it just as good is because of you. Like no one’s hindering you here. And so it comes down to having the confidence to go out and say to
a mentor, I have no stinking clue what I’m doing and I need help. Yeah, yeah, totally. Today we went to the okay. Yes. Conference and women in stem and entrepreneurship. Yes, exactly. So we were there a rise. We had a booth set up and anyways, we. So we listened to like a panel list of women in entrepreneurship talking and yeah, that was exactly what they were talking about. Like it was, it was really, really good haircut. Air Co wasn’t there while she was. Here’s what’s funny, I was talking to her on the phone and I could hear something in the background and she goes, hey, hey, I gotta I gotta go. I’m actually a to speak and I’m going into this long conversation with her. So that’s, that’s really interesting. You guys were on a panel. I got ya.
Well, you know the, the thing that is so crazy is how encouraging it is to hear from everybody else that they’re in the same boat of I don’t know what I’m doing, but I’m gonna figure it out. I guess because what’s the other option?
I would say to that, like the. I mean I would and anyone who’s listening like it’s going to be more valuable, like you’re more valuable because you had figured it out. Then the person who already came in and they already with the subject matter expert on it like that. What? That is like a huge thing I see with hiring and stuff like that as people are looking for people who are willing to just figure it out. That’s very common and in my profession, um, but like with entrepreneurs is a little different obviously because you don’t have people around like actually validate that you don’t hear it enough, but um, but yeah, no, I mean I would say like, that’s exactly right. You, you, you, that figuring it out is more valuable than just having coming in with all the answers anyways.
Yeah. And I think you just lead into your second takeaway is figuring it out is more important than having it all figured out. So did you continue talking on that topic a little bit more?
Um, yeah, this was one that Devin said last night and it was Kinda like this. He’d never said this phrase before and it was like, oh, so we were writing these down,
set it, and gave her like a logo.
We’re so glad that we could give you guys a good bonding time. Figuring it out is more important than having it all figured out. And I think that’s just kind of what we’re talking about. Taking the step to figure it out. And you don’t have to know the whole picture.
I’ve seen this, um, uh, I mentioned kind of the different ways. It’s like code and some hard skills and things like that. But I’ve seen this with Jordan too because, you know, whenever we first were dating and whenever we were first getting married, she was somewhat in this place of. I mean, she mentioned earlier, she didn’t graduate college, she’s kind of bouncing around. In fact, one of her bounces was to Norman where I was, um, but, uh, you know, that was like early on our relationship and now it’s like I see that on the other side of her having taken a couple of problems and said like, you know what, I’m just gonna. I’m just gonna do it. I’m just going to find a way. And now it’s like that builds. That is a really, really big compounding effect on your confidence of attacking the problem. Um, so I don’t know, to me, I think that like, I see, I just see a lot of people kind of going back to the first takeaway that a lot of people sell themselves short and kind of, you know, defeat themselves before they get there. And it’s more valuable to others whenever you have this attitude of figuring out because to be frank, like no one actually has it figured out that doesn’t exist. That’s a, that’s an ideal that, that isn’t there. So
get this perception that it’s all figured out and you know what’s really, it’s really hard is that social media has given us a, an amazing platform to make us look that way, that is so deceiving, so it can be so useful and then it can be so deceiving as well.
Yeah, that’s very, very true.
Everything honestly. I mean, where are we, where are we even getting these thoughts? I mean, what we’re really getting these thoughts from just what we’re comparing and what are we, what are we on most, you know, we’re on, on social media, we’re looking at other people were reading other things and it’s um, it’s, it’s really interesting how that works. How it could really be it.
Yeah. It’s dangerous to your mental and emotional health, whether you’re in the business realm or maybe even the personal realm. It’s just, it’s crazy and everything looks so perfect and polished on social media. When really I’m pretty convinced that we’re all just a bunch of pot mess assembling through laugh.
Yeah, so not to harp on going to events, but I went to another event this morning because I would say, Gosh, you’re an event junkie now. I’m really not actually aware. Whereas me, but I went in this morning. Do you take pictures? I’m at creative mornings. It’s basically a group. It’s all around the world, but they just started an Oklahoma chapter. I’m about five, six months ago, and this morning there was a speaker there, her name is Hannah Royce, and she’s just this really powerful women’s empowerment kind of speaker. But really she’s all about confidence and sort of what we, what we’ve been talking about. But um, today we did this exercise where like everybody, they were like, everybody got a piece of paper and on the piece of paper it had several boxes you’ve checked. And one of them was like, I feel like I could manage my time better.
I compare myself to other people and it went through all these things that we’re going to be like an obvious checkbox for everybody. And so then we crumbled up our paper and she was like, okay, throw them across the room and pick up somebody else’s stand up if you read on your paper. And so all these people were standing up, but it was like, okay, we’re all the same, like every single one of us thinks these thoughts or we compare ourselves to other people. And so I just thought that was really powerful because we really are all like social media is, is such like a beast because we think that we’re comparing ourselves to people, but everybody is really working from the same place. So
yeah, definitely. Well, I think this goes, it’s, I think it’s a nice segue into our third takeaway. There’s plenty of room for everyone to win and a lot of the times we think that, you know, oh, they’re already winning. Like there’s no, there’s no opportunity for us. But that is far from the truth. So what, what are your thoughts on that?
Yeah. So I’ll talk about this really quickly. Sorry deb. I feel like I’m doing all the talking. Go for it. Um, so this is something that I’m really big on and it honestly took me awhile to, like really believe it because I do struggle with comparison just like everybody else and um, I have like a little bit of competition running through my blood also. So, um, but I really, I really do believe this and I’m super passionate about it that like there is room for everyone. So for example, I’m in the photography community because that’s what I do and I have all these friends that are wedding photographers or photographers and maybe they do a certain industry that I’m not even in, like maybe they take maternity photos and that’s not something I do or you know, it could be anything but I’m always referring out and I’m always referring whenever I’m not available or even if I can’t take the job, like I refer out and it’s just like supporting one another and making space for everybody.
Like there’s enough work to go around and Oklahoma for everybody to do a good job and for everybody to win. And I really think that that’s true for every industry. But um, yeah, there’s just no reason to like, feel the need to hog all of like hog all of the work or just make it seem like you’re the, you’re the best and you shouldn’t go to anybody else. But even today, like I referred somebody to another co-working space, I just want what’s best for every person. And I think that yeah, it’s just a good attitude to have as a, as a business owner.
But with that being said, Devin, I think you have something to say to this, your fourth key takeaway, have a plan and a vision, but you have to take the action. So I think this goes, you know, you know that there’s plenty of room for everyone to win, but you’ve got to have a plan and a vision and take the action.
That’s exactly right. I think the thing that we see, especially with like entrepreneurs and stuff, we run into a lot just through the circles and do the space and all that kind of stuff. So I mean, the thing, the thing that people, people have an idea, they have a sort of a concept, they see the problem, they may even want to solve the problem, but the thing that they don’t have is that they don’t have a plan for how that’s going to happen and they, and they definitely don’t have been learning a lot about this word recently, but the word Grit, they don’t have the grit to necessarily make it happen now. There is plenty of wisdom in the idea of I’m kind of counting the cost of what it would take to open a business or you know, pursue this particular thing. And if you say no to that because of a different priority in your lives, that’s perfectly okay.
But you know, it takes someone actually with vision to, to make that decision. Right? So, you know, someone who says, I, my vision is just, you know, uh, right now in this season of life, raise my kids well or something like that. It makes perfect sense for someone to say no to a lot of really cool ideas or things or opportunities in order to focus on that. Um, so I don’t know, for me, I’ve been kind of really doing a lot of work for myself as to what my vision is. It just, it helps you to drive forward. It helps you to see how your gifts can be used. I think that that’s really what it is. A Kagan is just this idea that, you know, you have unique gifts, but what does it, what does it look like for you to put those down into sort of the, just sort of the actual work that’s going on and what does it look like to dig into the community and serve people in that kind of thing with what you’re good at. So it, it takes a little bit of thought. It doesn’t, it. That’s not something that happens just naturally.
Definitely. I completely agree.
Takeaway number five is a classic but so true and it’s probably something that I tell my team at least once a week, but teamwork makes the dream work and I love that. It’s so simple, but I mean, could it really be any better said? So tell us a little bit about your guys working relationship. We had a couple, one the other day that worked together and we got to care about how they handle, you know, working with their spouse and kind of the challenges that they had to overcome to get to that point and what they learned about each other in the process. So as a married couple, how do you do work as a team?
So honestly this is hard for us and that’s why I wrote it down and I’m very independent growing up like my family and very much operated independently. Like we’re all kind of like roommates. I mean we love each other. We’re family, but like we all sort of just lived our lives and I’m, I operate that way. So this is something that I’ve really had to work out. I mean, both of us have had to work at it. Um, and it really is true. Like if I try to do everything by myself, if Devon tries to do everything by herself, if we don’t lead our managers right and work together as a team, um, we have two employees that work for us at rise. So if we don’t do all those things together, like this thing is not going to work. Like really, that’s the one thing that I think could kill it.
It’s just not working well together and managing each other well and our resources as well. And so, um, it’s really been a challenge for us in, I think it’s taught us a lot about our marriage and about ourselves. And one of those things is just like communication. We’ve been married for six years, but um, there’s like days that I like these things will happen and I’ll never tell Devon and it’s not because it wasn’t a big deal or like I didn’t think about it, but it’s just like, okay, like we now we use slack to communicate when it comes to rise work at least. Um, and it’s great because I like fill everybody in on everything that’s happening throughout the day. And it could just be little things, but I’m like, oh yeah, Deb, I forgot to tell you that like we wanted to cater lunch this week and so we’re going to buy the food or whatever it is. Um, so yeah, just financial decisions about our business, miniscule things about our business, like anything that anything business related and also just family related, like we’ve really had to take time for each other and set aside can assistant date nights and just check in on one another because life is not about our business or life is not about anything other than supporting and loving one another and having a good time and enjoying our marriage and not living for like these little things. So we have a greater vision and a greater purpose for one another.
Well, I’ll tell you this, I tried to do the teamwork thing and send my wife a calendar invite and one day and she just about killed me. She ever send me a calendar invite again. What teamwork makes the dream work, right? No, not for that. So I love. I learned the hard way sometimes. So
calendar though to that.
Yeah, and I think also one of the things we learn as, as married couples working together is that we’re not as good as we thought we were. You know, there’s, I mean there’s many times where I think, man, I thought it was a lot better than that and I, I’ve failed dramatically. So. So yeah. So if you guys could give one piece of advice at a people building a team, what would that single piece of advice be
given advice to people building a team? Oh man, we’ve been really lucky because um, the people that we’ve hired, we sort of knew beforehand and I don’t know if this is even right or legal or what, like we’ve never posted our job listings. Like we just kind of said we have a need and then we like reached out to people that we thought would be good fit. Um, and yeah, I mean we’ve, so we’ve been really lucky on that end, but advice to people building a team, I would just say don’t be afraid to like lay down the for a second and just speak to somebody and get to know them and figure out hey, is this somewhere you really want to be like, how can I help you and support you, like is this going to grow your future? Um, and kind of just be super selfless about the person you’re hiring and we want to be supportive to them and use their gifts and talents and so think about the person you’re hiring and if they’re right for that position and if they’re not right for that position, pivot and create something for them or hire somebody else part time to fill in for them a little bit on the other needs that you have or hey, if they’re not that great at marketing, like I have to pick it up and say like, okay, what can I learn about marketing?
And then teach that to my team. But yeah, just being really, really flexible and also really personable I think.
Yeah. Kind of building on what John said, that the idea that you know, you, you’re looking for people who are just rock stars anyways. Um, so I think you have to be observant and to what that looks like. Um, so like with the people that we’ve hired, we’ve been able to see them operate in other contexts and so it’s like if we are observing we can see like that there are awesome and that they will grow, but then whenever they do come to our organization or whatever that looks like for someone else for another one, you, you look at them and you want to use what they’re good at and help them find a fit for them rather than put them into something. So that would be my piece of advice.
Well for all of you listening, if, if you’re interested at all in what a co-working space looks like, I am looking at the co-working website right now. It’s rise, OK dot go. And this is awesome. Like just looking at your website, it makes me want to come work with you guys for a day. So all of you made sure to go and check it out. You will want to be at a co-working space when you got to work on Monday. So let’s recap those five key takeaways. Don’t sell yourself short. Figuring out is more. Figuring it out is more important than having it all figured out. There’s plenty of room for everyone to win. I love that one. I’m a very big proponent of participation ribbons because I never, I never gave him first if the track leads when I was doing, I’m good. I’m good with that whole. Everybody love everybody. Thing number four is have a plan and a vision, but you have to take the action. It very important. And number five, team work makes the dream work. My personal favorite. Devin and Jordan, you guys are awesome.
Thank you guys so much for the time, man. You guys are awesome and we really appreciate you taking the time to talk to us and thank you for caring about what we do.
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